Define the eco-app.coilysiren.me feature inventory against comparable tools #313

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opened 2026-08-20 05:00:30 +00:00 by coilyco-ops · 0 comments

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2026-08-20 05:00:30 +00:00

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Filed from the Sirens Discord #suggestions-feedback-bugs forum.

Source // https://discord.com/channels/1300204416229441587/1531686534997213275
Raised by // Kai, 2026-07-28
Forum tags // mods (webapp)
Signal // no replies, 1 thumbs up

What was asked

Work out what eco-app should actually cover, benchmarked against the tools that already exist. Kai posted the comparison set and nothing else:

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/ , the out-of-genre example of how complete one of these can get
https://eco-calc.com/ , the Eco Crafting Calculator
https://eco-gnome.com/
https://mod.io/g/eco/m/eco-price-calculator , uCat's Price Calculator, which runs inside Eco's own web server

Why this is worth doing now rather than later

The pricing thread established that the community has no reliable pricing reference:

eco-calc still advertises itself for "Eco Global Survival 12.0.7" and has not been updated for v13. It reports a 40% raw input reduction where an AU3 actually gives 15%, so players following it have been selling at a loss. Upstream: https://github.com/aritchie05/EcoCraftingTool/issues/188
Eco Gnome is current on upgrades, but Theo reports its margin formula is opaque, with a 50% setting yielding roughly 75% margin and drifting worse the higher it is set.

Kai's conclusion in that thread was to stop depending on external tools:

This seems like a good case for... a new website to appear! One that knows our community specifically! Luckily I have just the thing

And on why Eco Gnome will not simply be adopted: "Eco Gnome is not going to be designed in a way that works effectively for us in masse IMO."

Full pricing discussion: https://discord.com/channels/1300204416229441587/1530651520150802472

Concrete gap already named

Kai on the items page: "I need to populate price info tho."

Suggested shape of the deliverable

A feature matrix of what each of the four tools does, what eco-app does today, and which gaps are worth closing given that eco-app can assume Sirens' own mod set and cycle history, which none of the general tools can.

Filed from the Sirens Discord `#suggestions-feedback-bugs` forum. **Source** // https://discord.com/channels/1300204416229441587/1531686534997213275 **Raised by** // Kai, 2026-07-28 **Forum tags** // mods (webapp) **Signal** // no replies, 1 thumbs up ## What was asked Work out what eco-app should actually cover, benchmarked against the tools that already exist. Kai posted the comparison set and nothing else: * https://satisfactory-calculator.com/ , the out-of-genre example of how complete one of these can get * https://eco-calc.com/ , the Eco Crafting Calculator * https://eco-gnome.com/ * https://mod.io/g/eco/m/eco-price-calculator , uCat's Price Calculator, which runs inside Eco's own web server ## Why this is worth doing now rather than later The pricing thread established that the community has no reliable pricing reference: * eco-calc still advertises itself for "Eco Global Survival 12.0.7" and has not been updated for v13. It reports a 40% raw input reduction where an AU3 actually gives 15%, so players following it have been selling at a loss. Upstream: https://github.com/aritchie05/EcoCraftingTool/issues/188 * Eco Gnome is current on upgrades, but Theo reports its margin formula is opaque, with a 50% setting yielding roughly 75% margin and drifting worse the higher it is set. Kai's conclusion in that thread was to stop depending on external tools: > This seems like a good case for... a new website to appear! One that knows our community specifically! Luckily I have just the thing And on why Eco Gnome will not simply be adopted: "Eco Gnome is not going to be designed in a way that works effectively for us in masse IMO." Full pricing discussion: https://discord.com/channels/1300204416229441587/1530651520150802472 ## Concrete gap already named Kai on the items page: "I need to populate price info tho." ## Suggested shape of the deliverable A feature matrix of what each of the four tools does, what eco-app does today, and which gaps are worth closing given that eco-app can assume Sirens' own mod set and cycle history, which none of the general tools can.

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Backfill complete eco-trades history into cycle-relative price data #123