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Add a warded ops role for bounded live operations #817
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opened 2026-07-09 16:56:13 +00:00 by coilyco-ops
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Context from deploy director surface on 2026-07-09. ser8 is now the canonical ops/o11y plane, with deploy owning the service manifests and warded agents increasingly needing to inspect live state without pretending that an engineer role is the right shape.
Recommendation: add a warded ops role rather than widening engineer/advisor. The role should be live-observe first, bounded-mutate second. It should fit ser8 and o11y work where the agent needs tailnet, kube contexts, SSM reads, and observability panes, while preserving hard fences around destructive actions.
Initial scope:
Non-goals:
Design questions:
Deploy-side references to read before design: coilyco-bridge/deploy docs/o11y.md, docs/o11y-sources.md, services/ser8-observability/docs/ser8-k3s.md, services/ser8-observability/docs/ser8-signoz.md, and services/fleet-reachability/docs/gatus.md.
🔎 ward agent advisor
ward agent advisor --harness codexran a one-shot standard research pass on this question:Recommendation
Add
opsas a first-classwardedstartup role, not as a hidden guardfile profile ondirectororadvisor.The reason is structural, not cosmetic:
wardalready models behavior at the role layer and permissions at the guardfile layer.advisoris explicitly answer-only and comment/fanout oriented.directoris a backlog supervisor that dispatchesengineerwork and owns the drain surface.opslane has a different contract: inspect live state first, take tightly bounded reversible actions second, then report evidence and file/dispatch repo work when the fix belongs in code.That is role-shaped behavior, not just a different permission bundle.
A good v1 shape is:
warded ops <ref>for issue-bound live investigation.directorcan learn to dispatchopsfor issues labeled or triaged as operational. That should be a follow-up, not the first slice.What the repo already says
The current repo already points toward this split:
docs/agent.mddefines a startup-role roster:engineer,director,advisor,qa.directorandadvisoralready carry the live-observe set through role wiring in.ward/ward-kdl/ward-kdl.fleet.kdl.ser8is now the canonical ops/o11y plane, with:ser8:30428ser8:30808ser8andkai-serverSo the issue is not whether a live-ops surface is needed. It is whether ward should represent it explicitly. The answer is yes.
Advisory design
1. Make
opsa startup roleRecommended behavior contract:
opsfiles and dispatches implementation work instead of editing code itself.Why not a director profile:
2. Split observe from mutate in the surfaced verbs, not just in the prompt
This is the biggest implementation risk.
Today the existing guardfiles are too broad to reuse unchanged for a "live-observe first" role:
ward-kdl ops awsincludes reads, but alsossm put-parameter,s3 cp, ands3 sync.ward-kdl ops kubectlincludes reads, but alsoapply,scale,rollout restart, androllout undo.ward-kdl ops signozalready includes both read-like query paths and mutating paths such as pipeline/dashboard/rule create/edit.If
opssimply inherits those guardfiles, the role will not actually be bounded the way the issue asks.Recommended pattern:
ward-kdl-read/ward-kdl-write/ward-kdl-adminsplit already used for Forgejo and SigNoz.opsa read-first default bundle.That keeps the safety property in the compiled surface, not in agent obedience alone.
3. Prefer purpose-built operator verbs over generic raw tooling for mutations
The issue body already hints at the right principle: reversible live actions should go through explicit
ward/ward-kdlverbs.That argues against exposing generic mutation-heavy tools as the main write path.
For v1, prefer verbs like these over broad
kubectl applyor ad hochelmuse:rollout restartfor a named workloadrollout status/rollout history/rollout undoforce-sync-secretwrapper modeled ondeploy/scripts/force-sync-secret.shtemplate,diff,list,status,get values,get manifestThis gives the audit log a stable intent vocabulary and avoids turning
opsinto "engineer with kube access".Recommended v1 verb set
Safe to include in v1
These fit the "live-observe first, bounded-mutate second" brief well:
kubectl get,describe,logs,events,top,config current-context,config get-contextskubectl rollout restartkubectl rollout statuskubectl rollout historykubectl rollout undohelm templatehelm diffor equivalent previewhelm list,helm status,helm get values,helm get manifestDefer from v1
These are either too broad, insufficiently audited, or conflict with the current design intent:
kubectl applykubectl scaleAnswers to the issue's design questions
Should
opsbe a startup role or a guardfile profile?Recommendation: startup role.
Keep the internal implementation as role -> guardfile bundles, but expose
opsas a first-class role besideengineer/director/advisor/qa.That gives ward a clean place for:
What mutation verbs are safe for v1?
Recommended yes:
Recommended no for v1:
kubectl applyRationale:
rollout restartandrollout undoare operationally common, scoped, and reversible.helm diff/templateare read-only and align with the brief.force-sync-secretalready has a concrete deploy-side operational model.How should ops report evidence back to an issue?
Use a structured markdown comment with fixed sections.
Recommended shape:
ward/ward-kdlcommands runnoneor the explicit bounded mutation performedresolved operationally,needs human follow-up, orfile + dispatch implementation workRules worth baking into the prompt/docs:
Gaps the issue should account for
These are the concrete holes between the desired role and the current repo state:
awsandkubectlsurfaces are too broad to reuse unchanged for an observe-first role.Risks
opsis not clearly no-code, it will drift into engineer territory.opsreuses current broad guardfiles, the safety model will be mostly social, not compiled.kubectl/awsmutations make it harder to tell intent from logs than purpose-built ops verbs do.Final recommendation
Post back on the issue with this direction:
warded opsas a new startup role.Researched and posted automatically by
ward agent advisor --harness codex(ward#179). This is one-shot research, not a carried change - verify before acting on it.— Codex, via
ward agentI think the way we do this is via downgrading director / engineer / advisor / qa to ward KDL "read" tier, and having ops be the only one we gets "write"
Except... director and engineer need simple writes like issue status...
So we probably need to do pre-work around the ward KDL security tiers they maybe well here, its just that their names are off
And doing THAT probably wants us to swap ward KDL to be aos released
Appraisal after the advisor answer and Kai's follow-up:
The advisor is directionally right that
opsis role-shaped behavior, not just a hidden profile. Its strongest point is the role contract: live investigation, bounded reversible action, evidence report, then file or dispatch repo work. That should stay.Kai's follow-up catches the deeper prerequisite: the current tier names and bundles are not quite the security model we want. The real split is not simply read/write/admin per API. It is role capability posture:
director,engineer,advisor, andqamostly need observe plus issue-thread writes.engineeralso needs git/repo writes inside its owned feature container, but that is different from live ops mutation.directorneeds dispatch and issue status/comment writes, but not cluster mutation.opsis the first role that should intentionally receive live operational write verbs.So the next slice should not be "add
opsand point it at existing write guardfiles." The next slice should be a tier taxonomy pass that separates:That means the advisor's proposed
opsv1 is a good destination, but its implementation should depend on this tier cleanup. Otherwiseopswill inherit today's broadaws,kubectl, orsignozsurfaces and the safety story will be mostly prompt discipline.On "swap ward KDL to be aos released": that looks mostly done or at least already tracked by ward#503. The aos docs say the coilyco ward-spec bundle is authored in aos and overlaid into ward release builds as of the 2026-07-07 cutover. I would treat that as a dependency check, not a new design direction. The still-open architectural sibling is ward#721, which says KDL should remain edge-surface authoring and not become ward core's runtime control plane.
Recommended dependency chain:
warded opsas a first-class role using the cleaned tier model: observe by default, forge coordination writes where needed, and only tiny live-ops writes.opsuntil the standalone role and tier fences have held up.Bottom line: keep the advisor's role recommendation, but accept Kai's correction that tier cleanup comes first.
opsshould be the role that proves the new tier model, not the role that papers over the old one.Closing as superseded by #1625. The new Ops program uses a provider-neutral verified GitOps handoff and does not embed tailnet, Kubernetes, Helm, SSM, or observability-product operations into Ward.